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jeliza ([personal profile] jeliza) wrote2016-11-08 10:36 pm
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tomorrow we will pick up and fight. tonight we cry.

So barring a miracle, Trump is winning.

All the kids Muslim and Latinx school friends are going to go back to being terrified, and with cause. We've got Republican majorities in the Senate and House, so they'll probably manage to get the ACA repealed, which means half the people I know lose their insurance. Trump said he would have a Roe V Wade litmus test for Supreme Court justices, so outside of those states (like ours) where abortion is a protected right things will get really fucking dicey.  The number of LGBTQ legal protections that were by executive order rather the federal law are presumably toast. Let's not even talk about the "bathroom bills". And since Trump is a lazy asshole who was upfront when he asked Kasich to be his running mate that he wants the VP to do most of the work, we get Pence. Pence who tried to mandate that all fetuses who did not come to term for any reason must be given funerals. Pence who is pro reparative therapy including electroshock for lgbt kids. Pence whose eagerness to cut public health spending led to a massive spike in HIV infections in Indiana's poorest counties.

And we'll bomb the middle east EVEN MOAR that we were going to (continue) to do under Hillary.

And the already existing increase in hate crimes will likely mirror the Brexit phenomenon and massively spike.

Washington will be relatively insulated on most fronts. Except maybe if Trump follows through on the leaving NATO thing.  And my inherited nest egg (which I need becuase it's not like I can sock away a retirement fund from the not-very-much I make now) is already worth at least 10% less, and the market hasn't even opened yet.

I am so fucking sick right now.

[identity profile] boonedog.livejournal.com 2016-11-10 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think identifying our friends vs enemies is a good first step. A lot of my acquaintances have said that everyone who votes for Trump is the enemy - but in my case two of my good friends voted for Trump. Their reasoning has nothing to do with racism or sexism, it has to do with believing he will fix the economy (I may disagree with them on that but that happens in politics - people disagree - and I can forgive a disagreement on economics). These are also two friends who are very supportive of Everest and would be horrified if his rights were taken away. So, the whole "who is our enemy" thing is becoming quite problematic. It's easy to see that people like my brother are the enemy because he thinks that we need to fix whatever is wrong with Everest and make him be a girl again ... but on the outside my brother is a progressive and a Buddhist and very anti-Trump. So, I think it is going to take a lot of discernment to figure out who the real enemies are. It's sadly not as simple as their religion or who they voted for.

[identity profile] eub.livejournal.com 2016-11-10 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
I really think Clinton got the numbers about right, when she said the deplorable Trump supporters were about half. It's not all. Might be as low as a third.

The way to distinguish is going to be to see who becomes disillusioned, and who doesn't -- and I don't mean they're gullible, but that they're getting what they want.

Unfortunately, Trump can't deliver on many of the decent grievances (pulling out of NAFTA won't roll manufacturing industries back in time), but he can deliver on a xenophobic attitude, social sanction for "un-PC" nastiness, and a pass for government Christianism. So I'll watch who's satisfied with what's delivered.